Should an aggressive adversary like Germany threaten its heartland, France is unlikely to be willing to sustain defensive efforts that could see the entire country devastated. Next step is forming the European Union. This page was last edited on 31 July 2022, at 13:58. Significant rivers include the river Rhine between France and German Reich, Le Rhne to the southeast, La Seine to the northwest, La Loire which runs through the center, and La Garonne which runs in the southwest. In some edge cases, for example if the UK goes non-historical, the legitimate democractic allies faction leader may shift to another nation (such as Canada). Even off of historical, Britain, France, and Czechoslovakia have a >90% chance to let Germany have the Sudentenland. These numbers represent the base available resources, depending on the trade law a certain amount may be traded away. Their support of the Ustae in Croatia was too much. But then the turkey player kicked Greece out of faction so the does not end. My prosecution of the war went no different, if slower but still well ahead of the "Go with Britain" focus. Note that you can still form the Kingdom of Franco-Spain if Carlist Spain did not win, provided that they did spawn (as you can liberate Spain to them in the peace deal), although doing so will lock you out of gaining cores on any Portuguese states. After the defeat of the allied armies in the Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg in 1940 and the British evacuation of their forces from Dunkirk to England, the French front collapsed. Threatened with annihilation, the British evacuated their expeditionary forces and what Allied units they could until Dunkirk fell. Germany lost i got 2/3 of Austria and then the Allies went to greece and Turkey to kill them. If played correctly, the Second World War (and any other conflicts before 1948) could very well see France reborn and reshaped and emerge from the crucible of war as the far bigger and stronger European Union. They also have focuses to form their own faction with Czechoslovakia and invite Yugoslavia and Romania to form the Little Entente - if they do form the Little Entente, they can also take additional focuses to invite the United Kingdom and Poland to the Entente. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by Paradox Development Studio. Very odd diplomatic game - France declared war on Germany in April 1939, just days after the Polish rejection of alliance, and after that, everybody pretty much forgot about Mitteleuropa, it seems. On the other hand, we don't exactly have the means to fight them on this issue. However, the very good civilian production allows for considerable military buildup in the years before the war and France can easily build up its industry to a comparable level once negative modifiers have been removed. The germany guy was good but the french joined and the game for him was over while i cleaned some pockets that had atleast a dozen divisions in it. At the end of its National Focus tree, however, it will receive the choice between joining the Axis, defecting to the Allies, or starting down on the path towards creating a Latin Entente with Italy, Spain and Portugal. [deleted] 3 yr. ago. I go after a country then immediatly after I declare war they join the comminterm and now im at war with russia and then I get instantly rekt. +35 01. Since every war/annexion/justification will increase world tension, it's simply impossible for you to keep world tension low enough to invade Europe as a whole without angering the allies at some point. ( they discussed it on chat) Turkey capped and the Turkey player started raging. Press J to jump to the feed. Any way from preventing countries joining factions mid war?! 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Tonjoin the allies youd go full democratic. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. and our Most unique focus trees include a monarchist path for their country, typically represented with the Non-Aligned party. and our An armistice with Germany at this point is inevitable. Japan and other Asian countries asked to join my faction and join the war which helped since it caused russia to stack some of their forces on their eastrn front which helped my war with them even more. Content Design, HoI4 [Retired] Paradox Staff 57 Badges. . We should try and find other sources of manpower to make up for the shortfall, either in recruitment or in the economy. Becomes the owner and controller of every state that meets the following requirements: Is either on the African continent or is a core of either of the countries: Becomes the owner and controller of as well as gaining national territory on every state that meets the following requirements: Is controlled by a country originating from, Every uncontrolled state that is national territory of, Sets the ownership and control of every state owned by, Is either Corsica (1), Provence (21), or Savoy (735), If Provence (21) and Savoy (735) are controlled by, Sets the ownership and control of Alpes (32) to, Every unit leader, including admirals, with the, Otherwise, if our country is the faction leader, kicks, Owns either Damascus (554), Aleppo (677), or Deir-az-Zur (680), Then the following is executed for a random nation which originates from. The greeks and the turks joined the Axis and the polish finally annexed Romania and put troops all over my border and sent the ultimatum i accepted it because I did not want to be crushed. . Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Soon thereafter, the French front collapsed and Germany begun an offensive southwards capturing Paris completely unopposed on the 14th of June and occupying the northern half of France (with the frontline going from Bordeaux to Grenoble) by the 24th of June. If the UK supports France, France (and any puppets France has at the time) will join the Allies, and if the Germans refuse to back down, when France goes to war, a civil war will break out. With the regime in Berlin ratcheting up the tension over the border between them and Yugoslavia, the British have made the decision to stand against German aggression. Following the sacking of two workers at a large factory, struggles between workers and factory owners have erupted across the country. If the UK refuses to back up France, however, France can either opt to oppose Germany itself (which will also trigger a civil war) or it can back down. Interactive corporate website, Can declare war on country of the same ideology group without a war goal, No National Spirit. Went and took out british Raj next to free up my eastrn allies. If Germany agrees to establish the Vichy Regime (which they most likely will), France will be split into Free France and Vichy France. Even now, a new joint government is being formed in London. France is a major power in 1936, one of the winners of the Great War, and in control of a globe-spanning empire. Do we give in to their demands or stand firm and risk a countrywide strike? . Examples of alternative division template names for France include: France has 1 Carrier(CV), 5 Battleships(BB), 7 Heavy Cruisers(CA), 7 Light Cruisers(CL), 52 Destroyers(DD) and 63 Submarines(SS) at the start, and boasts a somewhat modern - if badly understrength - fleet. becuase fighting england as germany is just a chore. open.spotify. Then took out Canada and America then the rest surrenderd since they were all small countries. Once Vichy France completes the tree, however, it will switch over to the regular French national focus tree (with the National Regeneration path unlocked). Join. 2019, https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/index.php?title=Vichy_France&oldid=60550, Countries with unique National Focus trees, Articles with potentially outdated tables, Play Questions, Paradox Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I got pissed and console annexed the UK. It is possible to declare on minors without the allies interfering. I forgot to say that I got parts of Slovakia and did not want to deal with resistance and released a puppet czeslovakia which later became independent and there was a czeslovakia in southern slovakia. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). Note that doing so may result in the UK guaranteeing them, so it's recommended that either the UK also be player-controlled, or the USSR have caused as little tension as possible (justifying on the Dutch East Indies can also help lower the tension). If invaded and puppeted or freed by German Reich or Italy, it will turn into Free France. PDXCON France has a number of unique names and appearances for various technologies and equipment, listed here. By default, they can only intervene on the side of the Republicans, but should they change ideologies, France can instead opt to intervene on the side of the Nationalists, the Carlists, the Falangists, or the Communists. Government type: Democratic, Conservative. 'History has shown how much can be accomplished when our great nations stand side by side. Note that one can spawn Carlist Spain on Historical if certain conditions are met (while this won't allow you to gain Brazilian Cores, you can still gain cores on all of Iberia if Spain forms that nation) - as soon as the Spanish Civil War begins, start Intervention in the Spanish Civil War and rush the decision for Volunteers. Press J to jump to the feed. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. We are invited to Matignon for negotiations. In almost all my games USA always joins the allies by early 1941, but in my last germany playthrough it joined in 1942, so it depends on what historical path USA chooses or if Japan declares war on them soon. The Prussian Menace was a nightmare. Should prove that we are the greater power and risk fighting alone? The memory of the Great War is also very much alive, and the people of France are reluctant to fight another major war in Europe. Privacy Policy. To avoid this case, you need to justify at a time when the allies cannot guarantee your target. Has completed focus Army Reform Charles de Gaulle delivered a radio broadcast urging resistance against the collaborationist Vichy regime. France starts outside of the Allies at the start of 1936, but has options to join later. Try to annex all coastal states as the Allies will not annex any states that they cannot reach. As for the military, Vichy France's military situation is a bit unpredictable, as Vichy France is only created if France is capitulated by Germany, which will cause the majority of the French military to be dismantled. Assemble the Regency Council Branch This branch allows Poland to form a Monarchy and elect a King. When formed, Vichy France will inherit all technology previously researched by France. They will eventually join the allies by 1941-42 if youre playing historical AI. Capital: Madrid. This is a community maintained wiki. Many in their government wish to seek an armistice with Germany, but some have responded favorably to a suggestion by members of the British War Cabinet to merge our two nations into one. Similarly, if Germany overthrows Hitler and opts to restore the Kaiser, France can raise an objection to the Return of Kaiser Wilhelm II (the AI will usually limit it's response based on how much tension Germany has generated); similar to Rhineland, the UK can opt to support or not support France, and Germany can either choose to continue ahead or compromise and instead install Wilhelm III as Kaiser; this will give them a similar debuff, but unlike the Rhineland Challenge Met debuff, none of Germany's focuses will be blocked. But honestly as Germany you can steamroll most of these minors anyway. Send Tank Volunteers to Republican Spain, and use them to secure the ports in Asturias; delay for as long as possible (if Nationalist Spain does either a Methodical Approach or Caudillo of Spain after Martyrdom for Primo de Riveria instead of Consolidate the North, you're on the right track). By selecting this Design Company it will permanently affect capabilities on all equipment researched while they are hired. Then me and my master, Poland-Romania joined the Allies but not the french. In a few weeks, Japan will declare war on the Philippines and I will be dragged into the war in Asia. Feeling secured by the Maginot Line in the Eastern provinces of Alsace-Lorraine, France declared war against Germany with the United Kingdom in 1939 after Germany's invasion of Poland. Note that once you go to war with Germany, you'll have to recall those volunteers, so after the Carlists Spawn, delete your existing tank volunteers and immediately send some new ones to Carlist Spain (at the start of the game, France starts with 6 tank Divisions - convert all of these to the template with motorized, and you'll have several good divisions on your hands), and use them to clean up as much of the other factions as possible before going to war with the nations required for the EU. The USA sometimes doesn't join in when controlled by an AI because someone at paradox removed the focus to give the US a war goal on Germany in the new focus tree, nor is there an event where the AI will always go for war with Japan or Germany. 'Our request to join Britain as Allies has been accepted. As recent events in Paris had an impact on most of us, it is more important than ever that we come together as a nation. The minute they finished the great purge I declared war since it gives them organization. Edit: Feel free to correct me if I am wrong on anything. Capital: Luxemburg. Faction: Neutral. They will retain control of southern France, while we are free to occupy the rest. However, this has made it difficult for companies to find skilled workers, and the military finds it hard to compete with the labor market for recruits. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. France has access to huge amounts of Steel and Aluminum. >_>. Cookie Notice As for the Free French military, the situation is even more unpredictable than with Vichy France.While Vichy France will usually retain control of at least a portion . Requires National Focus, Can justify wargoals against a country that have not generated world tension, DD battery II, AA I, TT I, TT II, DC I, Light Engine III, 2xCL I batteries, TT I, scout plane I, no armor, 2xCL II batteries, 2xAA I, mines, no armor, 2xAA I, 2xCL II batteries, scout plane I, CL armor I, 2xCA I battery, AA I, TT I, scout plane I, CA Armor I, 2xCA I batteries, 2x AA I, scout plane I, CA Armor I, 2xBB I batteries, 2x AA I, 2xSecondary I, Scout Plane 1, BC Armor II, 2xBB I batteries, 1xAA I, 3xSecondary I, BB Armor I, 2xBB I batteries, 2xAA I, 2xSecondary I, BB Armor I, 2xBB II batteries, 2xAA I, scout plane II, 2xSecondary II, BB Armor II. Having fortified the border gives France the opportunity to plan and prepare carefully, but it does sacrifice some flexibility in the event of something unexpected. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. When formed, Vichy France starts off with the following national spirit. French political parties are increasingly calling for the establishment of a provisional government and a general election. France is quite possibly the best candidate to form the European Union as if staying democratic, it can expect to end up in a defensive war against both Germany and Italy, allowing both countries to be annexed in a single peace treaty. The UK and France will start guaranteeing independence at WT 25%. If Germany does back down in response to either instance, not only will the Rhineland remain demilitarized, but it will also give them a negative debuff that will lock off Anschluss for 1 year (additionally, when Germany does go to war, this will mean that the Rhineland will be unprotected by German troops for a while). By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. However, around a year later, in 1940, when actual combat ensued between all three powers, the Allied armies were defeated in just six weeks during the Battle of France against Germany and Italy, in contrast to the years-long campaign expectation by both sides. At world tension above 50% you can expect any nation you attack to always seek to join a faction of the same ideology OR willing to go at war with you, if one exists. In the following months, the French government was extensively reorganized. Eventually they couldnt hold up and capitulated I had enough victory points to take most of th esoviet union japan got some of the eastrn side of russia but I got 85% of russia. If it weakens then France's security will suffer. . Once created, Vichy France will find itself in control of southern Metropolitan France as well as most of France's colonial empire. Interactive corporate website. Vichy France's zone of jurisdiction is initially limited to the following states within Metropolitan France: In addition to these, Vichy France will also gain control of most of France's colonial empire (Free France will gain control of French Guyana and a handful of other island territories). As France, have at least 150 Destroyers and research the maximum torpedo launcher technology, before 1945. France joins allies when they shouldn't.why? France has a focus to unlock decisions concerning whether to intervene in the Spanish Civil War, or encourage non-interference by other parties. Luxembourg is one of the minor nations in HOI4. Military production is dwarfed by Germany (20 more factories) and Italy (11 more factories) and only on par with Belgium. We can count on their full support in the turbulent times ahead. Changing conscription laws will make Full Employment worse but can be removed with the National focus. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Vichy France is a country in Europe that is neither releasable nor formable and is instead created through an event chain which will start if Germany defeats France (allied to the United Kingdom) in a war. [From.GetLeader] has refused to join the alliance, perhaps doubting our motives, or perhaps being concerned that aligning too closely with us would make them a target. HOWEVER, if the "GER_has_started_war" flag has been set, Britain and France will always back up Czechoslovakia off of historical. The below description is one of several available for this event.Germany has acceded to Italian demands for our territory. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by Paradox Development Studio. The game is mostly historical so far - Poland, France, and Norway have fallen. On capitulation if the following triggers are met: Gain control of state if owned by a nation which originates from, State is owned by a nation which originates from, If Midi Pyrenees (31) is owned by a country originating from, Grants control and ownership of the state to a random country originating from, Gains control of following states if they're owned, Gains control of the following states if they're owned by a nation which originates from, Sets the capital state to Ile de France (26), Changes the player-led country to this from, If Pyrnes-Atlantiques (806) is owned by a country originating from. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by Paradox Development Studio. Germany lost i got 2/3 of Austria and then the Allies went to greece and Turkey to kill them. If you spot a mistake then you are welcome to fix it. Ruling party is Democratic, Has completed focus Integralism . Cookie Notice It became a three way front, Allies attacking Germany and soviet union, Italy does not join the axis.